tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post114791391142468554..comments2024-01-18T12:02:23.977+00:00Comments on African Shirts: Elizabeth Ese AlabiNkemhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16179240558587295386noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148572256737580442006-05-25T15:50:00.000+00:002006-05-25T15:50:00.000+00:00I am glad i have the pportunity to say somethng ab...I am glad i have the pportunity to say somethng about Ese Elizabeth. I have never been so touched in my life. I was in tesco when i saw hr picture on the independent i never bought that paper but for Ese i bought independent that day. On reading the story i sobbed all day. I said to myself how can something like that happen to such a beautiful lady. I couldn't give up looking at that picture she looked soo beautiful but at the same time i said to myself she is gone. Elizabeth may your soul rest in peace i will not blame anyone for her death. God knows about what will happen to everyone and i guess this was just her time it doesn't seem right but God knows best. Elizabeth, may your soul rest in peace snd these kids you have left, the Lord will take care of them. God bless youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148175984144681782006-05-21T01:46:00.000+00:002006-05-21T01:46:00.000+00:00Back in line with the post:I think the whole thing...Back in line with the post:<BR/><BR/>I think the whole thing is a terrible tragedy, but for once, I actually believe that we have arrived at this sort of situation because of the attitude of the general public. <BR/><BR/>In recent times, iffy immigration laws are being passed as reaction to the continual moaning of the public about all sorts of crap. The current attitude of the public is to blame immigration for all their problems.<BR/><BR/>You also have to account for all the people who have in the past abused the system beyond belief. They have brought about the creation of a situation where sweeping laws that profit no one and are decidedly racist are passed. They have caused us all to take a step backwards.<BR/><BR/>It's not that the government is blameless in this, but we all are too. The blood of Ese is on everyone's hands.Monefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04864659934704793785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148048281393567632006-05-19T14:18:00.000+00:002006-05-19T14:18:00.000+00:00Do you guys realise that you just HIJACKED this po...Do you guys realise that you just HIJACKED this post!! It's a bit self-centered don't you think?? And please leave Delot alone. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his comment, at least it was on point. Unlike some people who only came on this blog too comment about Delot. <BR/>This was a heart-wrenching story about a poor woman who died because of arguably racist immigration policies and all you guys can do is carp over who is the most annoying. I'll give you a hint. It's not DelotNoellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04972556235785844121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148044058873858632006-05-19T13:07:00.000+00:002006-05-19T13:07:00.000+00:00Wow, that is really sad.Could they have not refere...Wow, that is really sad.<BR/><BR/>Could they have not refered her to BUPA or something. <BR/>Oh wellNneka's Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06790241470646230047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148034640235606632006-05-19T10:30:00.000+00:002006-05-19T10:30:00.000+00:00grace both yourself and aihammed delot are imperso...grace both yourself and aihammed delot are impersonators. I am the real grace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1148031018549081772006-05-19T09:30:00.000+00:002006-05-19T09:30:00.000+00:00and J, stop using my name to make comments. It is ...and J, stop using my name to make comments. It is starting to get obnoxious and intrusive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147988248597586802006-05-18T21:37:00.000+00:002006-05-18T21:37:00.000+00:00Please ignore my last post. My head is really hurt...Please ignore my last post. My head is really hurting. I have to go and sleep now. I am sorry everybody. Click on my link and see what page it takes you to. <BR/><BR/>Good night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147987426769404332006-05-18T21:23:00.000+00:002006-05-18T21:23:00.000+00:00This is too funny and I think I’ll leave it here c...This is too funny and I think I’ll leave it here cos this might go on for a while. Just to confirm, I didn’t put up the last Aihammed delot comment which said: "@aihammed delot: your head must be truly hurting, you never have any valid point to make" - which is why when you click on that link it takes you to alayescoro's page. <BR/>So no alayescoro i havent lost the plot...yet.<BR/>@grace & everyone else: I swear I’m not starting a fight, but these guys are cyber stalkers who've chased me from one blog to another; they've worn me down and have finally gotten the better of me - I GIVE UP, LEAVE ME ALONE. Its a shame the point of this blog was lost just because I had the nerve to question a point.<BR/>This is an official disclaimer: I’m leaving no other comments on this blog. Anything else that appears under my name is not me. There’s an impersonator in your midst. Goodnight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147985261684053672006-05-18T20:47:00.000+00:002006-05-18T20:47:00.000+00:00aihammed delot you are stirring up a fight?aihammed delot you are stirring up a fight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147984924877919292006-05-18T20:42:00.000+00:002006-05-18T20:42:00.000+00:00@aihammed delot: you clearly have lost the plot@aihammed delot: you clearly have lost the plotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147984763576147402006-05-18T20:39:00.000+00:002006-05-18T20:39:00.000+00:00@aihammed delot: your head must be truly hurting, ...@aihammed delot: your head must be truly hurting, you never have any valid point to makeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147983789147827072006-05-18T20:23:00.000+00:002006-05-18T20:23:00.000+00:00@culturalmiscellany: I gather from the way the art...@culturalmiscellany: I gather from the way the article was worded that she knew nothing about her heart condition before she left Nigeria. The article said she fell ill in England.<BR/>Secondly if you were to travel to Nigeria, you wouldn’t get the same treatment – I think you’d be totally ignored or even laughed at for suggesting a free service in a country where you have to buy your own water for operations in the general hospitals. We don’t have a full NHS system like the UK’s and if we did have one, it probably wouldn’t be able to cope with foreigners.<BR/>Furthermore if she did have health insurance, its arguable whether anything would have been done to put her on the “priority list” which is reserved for those entitled to NHS treatment (British citizens), EU Nationals and people from a select group of countries. Nigeria isn’t one of them, so basically she could have had all the health insurance she could afford, in fact she could have gone private and turned up at her hospital with gold bars – she is from Nigeria and would automatically have been put on a lower priority list.<BR/>Which is what the blog was about – people seen as inferior cos of their nationality.<BR/><BR/>Now switching briefly to Lilo and Stich.<BR/>@ obokun – There’s really no need to seek a joint consensus on what you or anyone else might think of me. It’s quite clear we have differing opinions. What I fail to gather is why you’ve let this get personal on several other blogs. Bagman - You keep carrying this entire load and your head might start hurting.<BR/>@ j – You really don’t show up anywhere with anything to say do you. You simply put in an appearance with your Kalahari bushman photo and drop absolutely irrelevant one-liners. You’re the David Batty of the blog world – a spoiler. Do you even really exist or are you just "someone’s" alter ego/sidekick type personality; invented to seemingly bolster a weak argument. It was funny and I did laugh, but this isn’t my blog and this isn’t about any of us, so if you’d like to carry on with this apparent display of petulance then I suggest you click on my link. I tried yours – but then all that came up was the bushman with no profile and no points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147974039430812312006-05-18T17:40:00.000+00:002006-05-18T17:40:00.000+00:00On question for you all. Firstly, did she have an...On question for you all. Firstly, did she have any idea about her heart condition before she travelled? Secondly, if I was to visit Nigeria and the same thing occurred what would happen to me?<BR/><BR/>I just remember one fact, whenever I have applied for a VISA to travel somewhere, the first question I have been asked is "Do you have sufficient health insurance to travel?". I have always assumed that should I get sick overseas it is my responsibility to look after myself as the country to which I have visited has no legal obligation to treat me.<BR/><BR/>To me its a travel basic, whether adventure travel or not.<BR/><BR/>By these statements and questions I am not saying that this situation was treated fairly, properly, morally correct. I just wanted to introduce a different angle. Feel free to slate me for it!culturalmiscellanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01051152488860486332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147973492080456742006-05-18T17:31:00.000+00:002006-05-18T17:31:00.000+00:00@ obukun: I'm sorry, i'm missing something; so wha...@ obukun: I'm sorry, i'm missing something; so what exactly was the point of bringing up the Nigerian healthcare system into your discussion?<BR/>@ J: if you're refering to your comment on Dilch's page about me being "a nuisance" i refused to comment because in that particular blog because i agree i was. however i'm not in any way or form trying to say anything rude here so i dont agree. furthermore what part of the comment do you find inarticulate? i could always try and explain again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147968642484117832006-05-18T16:10:00.000+00:002006-05-18T16:10:00.000+00:00and sorry i meant bureaucratic not whatever i just...and sorry i meant bureaucratic not whatever i just misspelt there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147968519032325892006-05-18T16:08:00.000+00:002006-05-18T16:08:00.000+00:00@obukun: first of all she didnt leave nigeria to g...@obukun: first of all she didnt leave nigeria to get treatment here, so speaking on this case in isolation; your comments on anything to do with the pathetic state of Nigerian health care are moot. she left nigeria not knowing she needed medical help and would probably have left this country to find help elsewhere if she could.<BR/><BR/>English people are dieing too but at least they have some hope of being treated...they'll be put on a donor list and not condemned to death by effectively being left stranded in a country which refused to give her the treatment she needed.<BR/><BR/>I guess she's unlucky her visa didnt expire. otherwise she could have turned herself into the immigration authorities and kindly asked to be deported; but couldnt be because she wasnt fit to travel, and so something would have had to be done to get her out of the country alive. And as illegal immigration is making more headlines than a failing NHS nowadays then she surely would have been patched up to a "fit to travel" state before they gave her the boot. at least that way she could have tried to get some sort of medical aid in another country.<BR/><BR/>And as was said in the original blog, money was never an issue in this case as even if she had opted to go private, she still wouldnt have been treated as its an issue of organ donation where everyone (private or NHS) has to jump on a queue; a queue which they decided she was illegible for.<BR/>Dont let a beaureaucratic system put in place to crunch numbers blind common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147959105120665092006-05-18T13:31:00.001+00:002006-05-18T13:31:00.001+00:00Nobody was asking her to be put ahead of anyone el...Nobody was asking her to be put ahead of anyone else. The question was: why couldn't she have been put in a place consonant with her condition? This wasn't about her being given an unfair advantage, it was about her being a human being who required treatment. <BR/><BR/>From a legal perspective, it was iffy at best, and from a moral perspective, immoral.<BR/><BR/>And no, it doesn't make us appear like dim turds. It is merely fighting for what is right. Being Nigerians should not preclude us speaking up. I sense a bit of "these silly immigrants should shut up" in your comments. <BR/><BR/>Your points about NDDC and oil revenue mean nothing in this case. The woman was in the UK, and required treatment here, simple as.Nkemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16179240558587295386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147954752923578872006-05-18T12:19:00.000+00:002006-05-18T12:19:00.000+00:00It must be very painful for the family for her to ...It must be very painful for the family for her to be so close to being saved and then not even being considered.<BR/><BR/>This stuff is depressing, surely discretion should be applied n such cases. <BR/><BR/>Was money and issue? Could she have offered payment?TMinxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01386375072652387848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18540171.post-1147946724013795832006-05-18T10:05:00.000+00:002006-05-18T10:05:00.000+00:00True. In today's world, where we are born might ju...True. In today's world, where we are born might just determine how we die.<BR/><BR/>Sad stuff.ayokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10206990544738744560noreply@blogger.com